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#do you know how sick she makes me#do you know how miserable I am about her#she’s my favourite girl#Anya I’m so sorry I promise I will draw you chilling on a beach soon#mouthwashing game#mouthwashing anya#mouthwashing curly#my art#tw rape#tw sa
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So I think my perception of Grian's reasoning for enabling the horrible Jimmy ecosystem and also my perception of his character as a whole has been turned on its head completely and I feel really bad for him after watching Kingdom of Valor and it's like bad roleplay but it's. it's done things to me and I've never ever felt this much for Grian not even in my sadboy Grian Desert Duo phase. I don't know what to do about this
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Episodes 6 and 10 (like the entirety of it) for context. :( . :(. But like major warning if you watch those episodes, especially 10, because um they didn't use any disclaimers
#what the fuckkkkkkkkkk man what the fuckkkk hello#dont talk to me#Grian will never be the same to me again. Like everything makes too much sense now esp with Jimmy but at what cost#dont want Grian to kill himself anymore but at what cost...#like obviously its a completely seperate and abandoned thing but it makes so much fucking sense#from the perspective that Grian prioritizing his wellbeing over anyone else's is why he enforces the ecosystem#just so no one else including potentially him can take his place. Not so much putting Jimmy down as it is him protecting himself#he is still very awful but. I feel bad for him he might be a little bit of a son now I fear#Grian repeatedly saying he'd kill himself and shit. what the fuck#cw sa#cw suicide#tw suicide#tw sa mention#tw rape mention#and they made the conscious decision to put a new skin on him of him being bloodied and his clothes ripped and in um specific ways#and I could so easily see Jimmy in that same situation like that is just alternate universe Jimmy right there#and the two guys with him. his FRIENDS. who he cares about. are just joking about it nonstop and hitting him. help him. Help him#and they have this whole diary about a previous victim who's named Jimmi like hello. what a wild fucking coincidence#most unintentional abhorrent foreshadowing ever just to torture me specifically even though I've seen kingdom of valor only now#kingdom of valor#ok bye dont talk to me#tubby art
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Mini rant below and in the tags, the only time I’ll talk about this and my personal take on it.
The way people talk about hypothetical male Anya on Twitter and the idea of how Mouthwashing would play out if the genders were swapped makes me remember how people still don’t take sexual assault and rape with male victims with the same gravity, especially when the perpetrator is female.
#not even gonna tag this cause I don’t want to start discourse in the tags but you can absolutely still explore the concepts of patriarchy#toxic masculinity misogyny and rape culture if the genders where swapped#like those concepts don’t disappear just because Anya is a boy now cause you have to think of all the ways it applies to male victims and#I just don’t understand why people keep getting angry when people facilitate different discussion the game opens you up to#like yes I get the frustration with not seeing the conversations you want but start them go find them why complain on other posts when#people are bringing attention to similar issues and the ways they are overlooked dismissed or blame the victim#I for one think we should have more basic clarifying conversations of SA rape cultures and how toxic masculinity and sexism create scenarios#like the Tulpar and enable men like Jimmy but I also can understand and enjoy the topic being expanded upon to include other cases on a#flipped scale like yes how male centered the fandom is is annoying considering the topic but seeing comments saying that SA isn’t as harmful#to men cause they can’t get pregnant is a whole can of worms you really need to unpack cause holy shit#like in this scenario if Jimmy is pregnant and can’t get rid of the baby Anya is the father yes Jimmy is pregnant but that’s because in this#swap she assaulted a man lied to either say it was consensual he forced himself on her or like canon panicked and semi admitted to forcing#him either way he is afraid to do anything because men do get blamed for defending themselves against women in these situations not to#mention the shaming that occurs because he is a man and should step up for the kids sake and likely be told he should be proud a girl wanted#him that much like yes you have to explain it more but bodily autonomy in this scenario is just as nuanced and I can’t believe I have to#defend something being male centered in a game where the rape of a woman is the catalyst just because people are saying SA for men#is not as damaging or degrading or harmful to autonomy as it is to a woman like how can you want conversations on rape culture and shut down#people bringing up other nuances in the conversation#like people are gonna jump around with it I know but if you only want to talk about one thing stay in that sphere like I just don’t get#going to another space especially one that isn’t even being weird or toxic and starting shit cause you don’t like it like the amount of#unnecessary and mean comments on normal art of think pieces I’ve seen on Twitter is crazy like it’s stupid callout shit for the sake of just#not liking something like I’m seeing so much screen shotting and vague posting like just at the bitch and fight about it like it’s still a#relatively small fandom ur just asking for in fighting on like the few things we shouldn’t have to worry about#as a victim my self and who has been in other situations and being afab I just can’t understand the vitriol toward this sort of discussion#mouthwashing#actually I will tag this cause you can explore the themes in mouthwashing still stop being freaks and just block bitches ong
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Ancient vulture-like alien creatures once benevolently ruled over mice elves until they drained the essence of one of them as an experiment. They sadly got obsessed with that essence and eventually started an entire genocide in order to increase their own lifespans out of their understandable fear of death, wiping out the mice elves they once cared for. THAT is complex. ValAngel isn't.
Actually begging Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss stans/Vivziepop defenders to start watching other shows and movies because holy shit, many of you have a disgusting view on SA and media literacy.
Speaking of which, watch The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance on Netflix, it's a gorgeous show with elaborate puppets and set design. It's sadly cancelled, which the Jim Henson company didn't deserve at all, but I'm not losing hope for some kind of revival.
#vivziepop critical#anti vivziepop#yes this is about the bullshit rape defenders over on twitter#which included val's voice actor might I add#not to mention the artist of the piece didn't even make it to be ship art in the first place#and made it show people how horrible abusive relationships are
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gonna be real seeing you boil down someone else's concerns abt making light of a rapist in media as fandom drama really hurts as someone who's experienced that kind of violence first hand. the character is fictional and obviously doesnt exist. but rape victims do exist and we see when people sexualize or joke about predators. idk. i don't intend to tell you what to do, but i hope this helps maybe explain why someone else could've been startled or upset to see that on your blog. its your space you can do what you want with it. i think some media doesn't need to be fandomized or treated as yaoi fodder. maybe it can just be taken seriously and discussed with respect. i think its pretty reasonable for victims of particular types of violence to express discomfort or concern when people joke about or make light of those who perpetrate it.
I genuinely get where you are coming from, I do. But what that ask was getting at did not convey to me what you seem to have taken from it.
There's a difference between making light of/mocking/making jokes about sexual assault/rape vs drawing a character who does those things in a narrative in an unserious way. Likewise, I feel that boiling down the narrative to just be about that One Act in many, many ways does a disservice to the narrative and characters as a whole.
I'm also not understanding where exactly this is coming from, to be entirely honest.
A person can be fully capable of breaking down and analyzing Jimmy in a way that is entirely respectful while still, also, making light of other aspects or enjoying him removed from that context. Drawing a character in a goofy way doesn't mean the person is making light of Anya's SA, or even excusing it. You can ship two characters while still finding the canon actions of one absolutely despicable. These things are not mutually exclusive!
Just as you're not telling me what to do, I'm not saying you, or that other anon, or anyone else has to put up with seeing that character or engaging with media that portrays him that way, to be clear. I'm not trying to tell you that your feelings or hurt or experiences aren't valid, they clearly and very much are.
But it's not my job, or even obligation, to protect you from it. Or any other trigger, for that matter. I do what I can with tags, but that's a courtesy I try to apply when and where I can.
That's what I'm getting at here. I tagged for him and that ship so others could avoid it if they found it upsetting. The anon did not do that, so I explained my stance.
People will engage with media in ways that are upsetting to you, or ways that even disgust you. I can't stop them, I make no plans to, and if my opinions or behaviors around this are upsetting or disappointing to you, if I endanger you or anyone by behaving this way, it is in your best interest to block me and have a safer and less stressful experience online. Those tools are readily available for that very reason.
I know far too many others who have also experienced that kind of violence, family included. I know the frustration and hurt of making light of that kind of thing, and how it can and does impact others.
But this is not that.
If, however, you feel it is, that's your right! I can't tell you how to engage with anything, nor do I intend to. I cannot change my space to fit your needs, and I'm genuinely sorry if that makes you feel unsafe or upset. I'm not trying to make light SA or the victims thereof.
I'm trying to, as best as I can, explain that policing how others engage with a fandom and its characters simply does not and cannot work. That isn't "fandom drama" - it's the psychology of humans and the media they connect with. Humans are complicated creatures, and our needs and interests vary wildly.
There is no monolithic way to demand others engage with a source material, and attempting to do so does more harm to you than that effort is worth. I hope you and that other anon can have a less upsetting day/night/etc - again, I'm sorry if this is frustrating to hear, but I fear this is an impasse we simply won't agree on in this way.
#asks#anon#i have slept for 3 hours so i hope this makes sense#im not passing judgement on jimmy other than that guy fucking sucks#however please remember that. I didn't make that art. and you have no context about the person who did#for all you know people making art in that way do so bc they cant handle the heavier aspects#there are people who do that as a way to avoid their own triggers for the same reasons you treat it seriously#victims do not only ever have one way to cope or connect with these things#all you can do is protect yourself as carefully as you can#if you need extra tags on anything with him genuinely let me know! i will add them!#im not actively in that fandom and I barely use tumblr FOR fandom#idk the tagging etiquette for it#also if you know me off anon you are free to nudge me or have a better discussion abt this in DMs#im genuinely not trying to make light of it. i just dont see where that came across in that way so I feel our perspectives arent aligned#answers#rape mention#SA mention
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DOLI INCAPAX (2025), A3 analog collage, mixed media
a villanelle about a day a long time ago in early winter, building stories, the rotting fiber of events that were not spun in time, the structure that is expected, and using various rapes for arguments.
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[image ID: three pictures of a collage of letters in shade of red and blue, and a screenshot of the text, which reads:
It’s not the rape, it’s what the story makes:
How you make it, remake it purposely.
Weaving, one by one, the year-long snowflakes.
Twisting yarn – carving stone – or driving stakes,
Trades lend themselves to metaphor nicely;
It’s not the rape, it’s what the story makes.
What was not written fell between the breaks,
Spilled through the strands, a gasp, a non-story.
Weaving, one by one, the year-long snowflakes.
Picture pastoral themes and urban lakes.
Teen tongue drumming a hotel rhapsody.
It’s not the rape, it’s what the story makes.
I had to weave it, see – through the headaches –
Unspun threads do not win any parley;
Weaving, one by one, the year-long snowflakes.
Spin it, re-spin it – o, make no mistakes,
The space beneath the cloth is now empty.
It’s not the rape, it’s what the story makes:
Weaving, one by one, the year-long snowflakes.]
#collage#formaldehyding#analog art#mixed media#boy does tumblr fuck with the quality. anyway#this is maybe 15 hours of work lol. it doesnt look like it but collages are so fucking time consuming for me. in a good way. was just#sitting on my floor.#anyway n°2. let me know about it this is very dear to my heart.#rape tw#also maybe.#ok to rb
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uncensored dialogue. might shift the tone of this.
leo ends up regretting teaching raph cope jokes after he needs to draw a diagram of what the hell turtle penises look like to help him deal with the fact he had no idea what he was even dysphoric over. yeah he's 16 when he learns that.
the penis envy is a big thing for him. for obvious reasons.
#art#cw rape#cw csa#cw incest#i guess?????#jsut in case??? like its not im just like. you know its very much just them talking about their own bodies#but also their whole situation is fucked#but theyre literally coping theyre alright here nothing actually happened here#leos just like. god hes gonna be a new kind of annoying.#idk how canon this conversation even is anymore but its literally the first thing i ever drew for it
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So-called Christians still whining about the Olympic opening ceremony supposedly "insulting Christianity", but none of them gave a fuck about Israel bombing the oldest Church in Gaza months ago.
#palestine#free palestine#israel#olympic games#I think destroying a church with people inside is worst but who am I but a french leftist raised by a christian man???#nah I'm so done with them whining#also they are awful to the artists by telling them they deserve the rape and murder threats they are getting#reminders that Christianity is against idolizing representation and that christians did all that “sexualizing religious figures” first#like they used to masturbate on statues of saint for fertility... as an example#christian arts has been diverted A LOT in history especially the last supper you must be sooooooo ignorant to whine about that
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Look, this is not gonna be a discussion.
I don't care what you think of J. K. Rowling. I don't care if you think she's transphobic or not, if you support her or not, if you think Harry Potter is a good series or not. I conversely don't care what you think about Neil Gaiman, whether he's actually guilty of what he's been accused of, whether you've been a fan, whether you agree with his politics, whether you're left or right or progressive or conservative or whatever. This is not what's this is about.
What this is about is this take I saw on youtube today (and right under a thread full of I am assuming left-wing people congratulating themselves about how much they care for victims of SA and thus they are holding Neil Gaiman accountable for his alleged crimes, and his definite unethical behavior (even though the accountability, as with others, was some time in the coming), in contrast to their political opponents, and denigrating their ability to read anyways to bout.)
"I can't feel the same about Neil Gaiman and Rowling. He might have done bad things to people in private but at least he didn't spread hateful rhetoric."
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I'm gonna say what should not need to be said. There is no world and no moral code other than the most ridiculous and unacceptable on planet earth where words weigh heavier than actions. If you ever find yourself even approaching such a mindset, then stop, turn, and check yourself into the nearest psychiatric ward, go to a mirror, take a good hard look at yourself and wonder how you became intellectually and morally debased to such an extent.
Trigger warning because I'm gonna use a rape analogy to illustrate my point.
You are literally saying that you consider a person shouting vile rape threats to you in public worse than the person who will violently rape you in private while telling you how much they love and cherish you, and then will go out to bask in everyone considering them a good person for loving and cherishing you.
Just....stop. If your ideology is making you so vile, either examine th ideology, or examine yourself. If reading these people's fiction makes you so morally bankrupt, stop and go look at the clouds. If you are that way anyways, then God have mercy on you, but know that, for everything going wrong right now in the world, everything, you are a person who can and will only make it worse. Look at yourself, look around you, have some empathy, humility, do some self-reflection. Touch grass if you need to. And if you can't be decent, at least be silent.
#i won't take any criticism on that#i hate that i ended up talking about neil gaiman#this has been weighing heavy on me even though i'd drifted away from him a long time ago#it's incredibly draining to me rn#i'm feeling so betrayed and i know it's so stupid#and i never even idolized the man#i simply liked his work#but i'm tired of the delulu of the hypocrisy of the self-righteousness#i'm so goddamn done#sometimes i feel like i'm going mad and can't synch with anyone#i don't know if the world is mad and i am sane or the opposite#but never have i felt so violently internally#aesthetically and morally opposed to what's going on around me#everyone seems mad#everyone seems hateful and debased#and even art isn't the refuge i wish it could be#not when things like this are happening#tw: rape mention
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i think honestly what irritates me about yoshidas work SO much is that people will tell you that banana fish is THE gay manga (ignoring the many things that came before it and were more groundbreaking, ie MW literally having on screen (or like. on panel but still.) gay sex in it and that came out like a decade before BF did) when there really isn't barely any gay rep outside of the pedophiles and the one time ash drops the f slur. like im sorry but somehow yasha, a work she wrote in 1996, has more gay rep in it but also has the same issues.
i truly do not get how people can enjoy banana fish with the rampant racism every 2 pages or the rampant sexual assault plotlines (on women and ash bc he is just... written like how yoshida writes women lmao) that are handled IMPOSSIBLY bad and sincerely i hoped yasha would be better because it had been like a decade or so between works. and then it proceeds to continue with the heres our blonde genius protagonist who everyone is weird as fuck to and will sexually harrass and everyone finds it a VERY funny joke to point out how feminine he is when theres barely any women in the work (if you exclude the ones that are being raped/killed/creepy to minors. which to be fair yasha has toned down the sa a LOT) and that its funny that hes kind of gay except not really!! and its just absurd to me how it just persists in all of her stuff because she is not an author that handles gay stuff well. like the scene in banana fish where ash is completely ok getting gang raped and did it solely to get into the hospital when its been SHOWN that he has a lot of trauma with that. and then right after his friend makes a joke at ash's expense about that. like sincerely and genuinely is this what we are hyping up as the old retro gay manga. go read some tezuka and stop reading shit that the most the main characters do is share a kiss in a nonromantic sense and is obsessed w making every gay person be evil!!
#twist rambles#sorry mw u will always be famous to me (horrible fucking manga to experience for like 50% of the time but also it rocksss and theres#about anything tw worthy in there but i wish more ppl did read it)#sorry im like. i like to read her stuff bc her art is interesting to me but oh my god it makes me so angryyyy#rape mention#ask to tag#like... you do not understand my one sided rivalry w her it is SO intense like... bf was one of the worst reading experiences ive ever had#my tzk gay recs are: black jack (protag literally has a transmasc ex bf) and mw (for aforementioned reasons but its like. genuinely bonkers#and honestly there r a lot of minor characters that r lgbt in his works and like. can we please read smth that doesnt suck 100% of the time#like idk god bf is so baffling to me bc theres NOTHING there other than like. the new horrors every chapter. and yasha seems to be reusing#some plot points so it double sucks. haunted by the one analysis showing how the two had similar themes and point 1 was literally child#exploitation like... man. god it sucks. like not that mw is perfect bc its not and its a media i have a lot of thoughts on but man. id take#that over bf anyday bc like... sincerely how is anyone looking past the horrors there!! the story is a jumbled mess and it rly doesnt have#much to sayyyy but whatever lol!! id love if the characters were in a better media id love if ash didnt end the story feeling positively#towards the man who groomed him but whateverrrr lol#this is super disorganized as a post but like. genuinely it is so infuriating bc some of the plot concepts in yasha have potential and then#she keeps doing this like!!
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Kinda lowkey highkey really bothers me when people tag things that aren't there when reblogging my posts
#about that 'neil gaiman' post where I'm talking about how we shouldn't instantly blame 'parasocial relationships' etc#People are tagging abuse and tw rape but like. I don't mention any of that#the post is as clean as it gets. in the post itself abuse is never even mentioned#Anyway not to whine or anything I'm being overdramatic#not art#text#me complaining#edit: ok people are tagging reblogs with additions that mention these things (as tgey should. stay safe. tag correctly) I was being dramatic
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Can they jump
#I don’t talk badly about other ppls art but man……..#you played/watched gameplay of a game about taking responsibility for your actions/holding yourself accountable/ rape and you draw the#victim like this……….#like I’ve seen worse but why do ppl always resort to shit like this it’s like you don’t care about the stories being told at all you just#want to get off and it’s just??? like this ain’t never Anya bro 😭👎🏾#the hell#rambling#ppl in the comments calling ppl puritans and using the excuse of being surviviors to excuse this bullshit#this is why I don’t pay attention to art and content that comes out of nothing I like for the most part now
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I’m disappointed but not surprised by how some of tumblr treats Mouthwashing (the game).
#I think just too many ppl on tumblr just don’t know how to treat media#all they know how to do is pick characters to obsess over and headcanon and write fanfiction about them#they truly just don’t know how to treat media that has some more serious topics within it#I was just wanting to scroll through the tag and see discussions of the game or maybe some regular fan art#and yet….#it’s weird roleplaying and headcanons and I would say even going as far as making light of the themes of rape in the game…..
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im gonna say it. normies are real and i Do Not trust them...
#thinkin about some of the braindead stuff ive heard over my years in fandom#and its like... unless its dead dove/whump spaces theres always that one guy yknow#even then. im sure there are normies there too somehow.#ig my best description for what i even mean is like#u see smth new/weird/gross/etc in a creative work. if u go 'thats too much and they shouldnt do that' ur a normie#its different from anti tho but thats more confusing to try n explain#uhm.#anti = 'this art is a one to one reflection of their moral values'#normie = doesn't think it auto makes someone evil but just thinks weird art shouldn't exist#like cyberbully creeps vs the kinda guy that marketers base their approaches around#i hate normies but its not a deal breaker for me like i can still be nice#cyberbullies are mean tho. kinda comes w the territory. i dont like that#im not gonna keep calling them antis bc like. they are just cyberbullies at a certain point#im not forgetting the rape/death threats ive seen ppl get haha...#ive gotten less directly threatening hatemail but ive still gotten hatemail. which. its still cyberbullying lol#lol i was so ready to just be a normie hater for a min but then i Remembered... it gets much worse than normies...
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mouthwashing fandom they could never make me like you
#mouthwashing#half of yall just ignore the core of the game#and ship the two most awful men and boil it down to toxic yaoi#or secretly become pro-lifers and make the assult victim keep the baby#oh and yall cannot trigger tag shit for the life of you#the amount of just. untagged debate about rape and stuff?#like while some of the art is wonderful and made by talented people#i just#ugh#abort that thang#jimmy and curly can die they aren't “toxic yaoi”#it's a rapist and a his defender#cw rape#cw sa#sa#tw sa
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